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fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIglenn javaheri 2004-06-14 18:53:05
Does anyone know of (name, manufacturer, a source of, etc?) the FM synthesis, resynthesis software for the fairlight? Saw this program in action at Fairlight L.A. mid to late 80's. Very much want to find a copy of it. I'd be happy to pay a reasonable price for it or may have stuff to trade if you have a copy just sort of, gathering dust...:):)

Thanks,
glenn
glenn234@pacbell.net

Re: fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIJames Thomson 2004-06-16 11:25:08
Hi Glen,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I would like to know more about this particular software as well. What do you remember seeing on screen etc? Was it made by a 3rd party company ? Do you remeber who did the demo? Anything else you can remember would be helpful. Thanks!

Regards,

James Thomson
Magic Audio Co.
London U.K.

Re: fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIglenn javaheri 2004-06-16 17:58:07
Hey James,
I believe remember it was kind of a touchy thing like they weren't directly "selling" it, but rather demoing it for sale through (though i believe as an agent of) i think a couple of cats who'd come up with it.

Going to try to contact the cat I went down there with, he's about like me with paperwork i think, but his wife might have organized/filed the brochure/company/product name/business card of the cat that gave the demo.

It was freakin awesome, a syclavier killer at the time as resythesis on that was time consuming and limited in a relative way (not that they're not great, they are) plus they cost more. I don't think that package was cheap, might have been 5K at the time. it's a stupid detail but I'm remembering a red flyer/brochure/cover or something(not sure about that part, but as certain as anything about the rest of it). I remember it as very fast, very versatile and not consuming the system's usabity during resythesis as i think was the case on the NED..

So all these years I've been assuming the proliferation of this prog was a given, but since finally snagging a CMI and talking with a few people, it appears that's not the case.

Can't find squat on the web so far.

Maybe someone here will know/share?

glenn

Re: fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIStephen Dewey 2004-07-02 08:13:08
I never heard of any third party application for the series 3 ( or 2 ).
However it seems like you are all talking about the FFT page.
The product with the packaging as described might a library of sampled sounds that I think was called Sound Genesis.
I was West Coast product specialist in La '88-89

cheers
Stephen

btw i am looking for a functioning Series 3 keyboard, synth or weighted action and a cmi monitor to buy....

Re: fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIAndrew Brent 2004-07-06 19:16:46
Hello.

Steve is right about us not ever selling third party products on the SIII. Certainly we looked at it and I think even had some development underway, and things like the Studio manager page and the Time Code Trigger page were developed by a third party guy who then went on to work for the "company". What I think you saw in the late 80's in the LA office was a FFT processor, as a stand alone product, by another company. About that time Fairlight was trying a bunch of things to diversify. It had a LED touch pad which allowed you to draw the waveforms for it to synthesise and it pretty much coughed up a sound right after you were done with wiggling your finger. I think it was a 1024 point fft as well, which was pretty impressive as the SIII would crunch away for sometimes a few minutes on a complex waveform with the same resolution.

Anyway, I can't remember the name of the box - it didn't sell that many, it was about 25K I think, but I do know that Clive in NY bought one and loved it. Still might have it as well, I'll ask.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Andrew.


: Hey James,
: I believe remember it was kind of a touchy thing like they weren't directly "selling" it, but rather demoing it for sale through (though i believe as an agent of) i think a couple of cats who'd come up with it.

: Going to try to contact the cat I went down there with, he's about like me with paperwork i think, but his wife might have organized/filed the brochure/company/product name/business card of the cat that gave the demo.

: It was freakin awesome, a syclavier killer at the time as resythesis on that was time consuming and limited in a relative way (not that they're not great, they are) plus they cost more. I don't think that package was cheap, might have been 5K at the time. it's a stupid detail but I'm remembering a red flyer/brochure/cover or something(not sure about that part, but as certain as anything about the rest of it). I remember it as very fast, very versatile and not consuming the system's usabity during resythesis as i think was the case on the NED..

: So all these years I've been assuming the proliferation of this prog was a given, but since finally snagging a CMI and talking with a few people, it appears that's not the case.

: Can't find squat on the web so far.

: Maybe someone here will know/share?

: glenn

Re: fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIStephen Dewey 2004-07-07 07:46:03
Hey everyone

Andrew is right too, kind of. Following the closing of the Fairlight offices in North America, Clive Smith ( my east cost product specialist colleague ) and I were approached by a chap who was somebody at McGill University in Montreal, where they had developed the Acxel Resynthesizer. Looking to market the machine, he asked me on the west coast and Clive in New York to approach and demo to the various Fairlight users and other prominent deep pocketed musical folk. It was a brilliant device, both functionally and aesthetically, featuring a radical interface to the radical processes it performed. However, it wasn't quite finished and was very expensive, I don't recall that we actually sold any, except that Clive cheated by selling one to himself ! It did some extraordinary things, however the sound quality was often marred by odd artifacts, I never heard a final release example however.
Here are a couple of links that I dug up on the web

http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/studio/acxel/
http://www.synrise.de/user/acxel.htm

I think thats about it...

Stephen

: Hello.

: Steve is right about us not ever selling third party products on the SIII. Certainly we looked at it and I think even had some development underway, and things like the Studio manager page and the Time Code Trigger page were developed by a third party guy who then went on to work for the "company". What I think you saw in the late 80's in the LA office was a FFT processor, as a stand alone product, by another company. About that time Fairlight was trying a bunch of things to diversify. It had a LED touch pad which allowed you to draw the waveforms for it to synthesise and it pretty much coughed up a sound right after you were done with wiggling your finger. I think it was a 1024 point fft as well, which was pretty impressive as the SIII would crunch away for sometimes a few minutes on a complex waveform with the same resolution.

: Anyway, I can't remember the name of the box - it didn't sell that many, it was about 25K I think, but I do know that Clive in NY bought one and loved it. Still might have it as well, I'll ask.

: I hope this helps.

: Regards,

: Andrew.

:
: : Hey James,
: : I believe remember it was kind of a touchy thing like they weren't directly "selling" it, but rather demoing it for sale through (though i believe as an agent of) i think a couple of cats who'd come up with it.

: : Going to try to contact the cat I went down there with, he's about like me with paperwork i think, but his wife might have organized/filed the brochure/company/product name/business card of the cat that gave the demo.

: : It was freakin awesome, a syclavier killer at the time as resythesis on that was time consuming and limited in a relative way (not that they're not great, they are) plus they cost more. I don't think that package was cheap, might have been 5K at the time. it's a stupid detail but I'm remembering a red flyer/brochure/cover or something(not sure about that part, but as certain as anything about the rest of it). I remember it as very fast, very versatile and not consuming the system's usabity during resythesis as i think was the case on the NED..

: : So all these years I've been assuming the proliferation of this prog was a given, but since finally snagging a CMI and talking with a few people, it appears that's not the case.

: : Can't find squat on the web so far.

: : Maybe someone here will know/share?

: : glenn

Re: fm synthesis, resythesis software for the series IIIAndrew Brent 2004-07-11 18:00:15
Kind of right huh.....

I thought we had you, the bald guy and the box in the LA office for a period of time. Did it all happen afterwards did it? Thanks for remembering the name of the box.

Hey, I'll be up that way for carfest next month - are you in town.

Later.

: Hey everyone

: Andrew is right too, kind of. Following the closing of the Fairlight offices in North America, Clive Smith ( my east cost product specialist colleague ) and I were approached by a chap who was somebody at McGill University in Montreal, where they had developed the Acxel Resynthesizer. Looking to market the machine, he asked me on the west coast and Clive in New York to approach and demo to the various Fairlight users and other prominent deep pocketed musical folk. It was a brilliant device, both functionally and aesthetically, featuring a radical interface to the radical processes it performed. However, it wasn't quite finished and was very expensive, I don't recall that we actually sold any, except that Clive cheated by selling one to himself ! It did some extraordinary things, however the sound quality was often marred by odd artifacts, I never heard a final release example however.
: Here are a couple of links that I dug up on the web

: http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/studio/acxel/
: http://www.synrise.de/user/acxel.htm

: I think thats about it...

: Stephen

: : Hello.

: : Steve is right about us not ever selling third party products on the SIII. Certainly we looked at it and I think even had some development underway, and things like the Studio manager page and the Time Code Trigger page were developed by a third party guy who then went on to work for the "company". What I think you saw in the late 80's in the LA office was a FFT processor, as a stand alone product, by another company. About that time Fairlight was trying a bunch of things to diversify. It had a LED touch pad which allowed you to draw the waveforms for it to synthesise and it pretty much coughed up a sound right after you were done with wiggling your finger. I think it was a 1024 point fft as well, which was pretty impressive as the SIII would crunch away for sometimes a few minutes on a complex waveform with the same resolution.

: : Anyway, I can't remember the name of the box - it didn't sell that many, it was about 25K I think, but I do know that Clive in NY bought one and loved it. Still might have it as well, I'll ask.

: : I hope this helps.

: : Regards,

: : Andrew.


: :
: : : Hey James,
: : : I believe remember it was kind of a touchy thing like they weren't directly "selling" it, but rather demoing it for sale through (though i believe as an agent of) i think a couple of cats who'd come up with it.

: : : Going to try to contact the cat I went down there with, he's about like me with paperwork i think, but his wife might have organized/filed the brochure/company/product name/business card of the cat that gave the demo.

: : : It was freakin awesome, a syclavier killer at the time as resythesis on that was time consuming and limited in a relative way (not that they're not great, they are) plus they cost more. I don't think that package was cheap, might have been 5K at the time. it's a stupid detail but I'm remembering a red flyer/brochure/cover or something(not sure about that part, but as certain as anything about the rest of it). I remember it as very fast, very versatile and not consuming the system's usabity during resythesis as i think was the case on the NED..

: : : So all these years I've been assuming the proliferation of this prog was a given, but since finally snagging a CMI and talking with a few people, it appears that's not the case.

: : : Can't find squat on the web so far.

: : : Maybe someone here will know/share?

: : : glenn



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